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Print and Cut starts out fine and goes off course

walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
edited May 2015 in Help for Make The Cut
I thought I would just post what happened with my zing and how I fixed it. I have been cutting out butterfly bookmarks and there are lots of little pieces that come off of the butterflies but I was print and cutting okay but last night the print just sort of went off into left field after the first row.

I did a calibration and it was perfect. I tried another printer. And I still kept getting the same problem.

I then cleaned the rollers. And it worked.

Cool story brah.
Connie
I have my work cut out for me!
I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
Gallery ID: 20273
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  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    Can I un-resolve this??

    I thought I had fixed it but it turns out I just misunderstood what was happening. My print and cut and WYSIWYG cuts are cutting in two different places. The file is attached. I am cutting with a zing. The file is a series of tabs that I am cutting out. The top row of my mat (i.e. the row farthest away from 0,0 position) is a row of tabs that is supposed to be straight across.

    In the picture attached you can see where I cut the same paper with a print and cut and a WYSIWYG. I have used a pen to show the difference of the where the row cuts. The blue pen indicates the WYSIWYG cut and the red pen indicates the Print and Cut cut. See how the print and cut row is not even straight across?

    I have no idea what is going on. Any ideas on figuring out a solution?

    image
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    Well the very next cut was WYSIWYG and that cut had the same problem as the print and cut above. I hand cut out the tabs and I think I am heading to bed. If anyone will put this in the MTC problems area AND/OR tell me what I am doing wrong. That would be awesome.
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,583
    What are your cut settings? What material are you cutting? Can you see blade marks in your mat?

    On cuts like this where there are shapes extending to the far edges of the printout, it's very important to make sure the mat isn't slipping due to the blade struggling (even a little bit) to cut the material. This is one of the reasons the slower speeds are available, as well as an infinite blade holder. Trying to cut too fast, combined with a blade that's cutting into the mat, can cause tiny bits of slippage that will result in more offset as the cut progresses.

    Also, to verify that your calibration is perfect for this type of cut, do a calibration where you have four smaller arrows, but positioned at the corners of your printout versus just one in the middle.
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit, Skycut C and D
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
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  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    I am cutting card stock. Three different types. My force is 105.

    What is an infinite blade holder?

    I can try with a new blade. And slow it down.

    I will also try the 4 arrow calibration.
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,583
    The Zing blade holder is infinite because you have full control over the blade exposure. On the click style blade holders, there are no in-between settings, thus with most materials, you end up with some cut lines in your mat because if you set it even just one position lower, then there's not enough blade to penetrate the material. Now, that doesn't mean that it's always a problem... you just don't want the blade dragging on the plastic which could then starting causing a slight slippage of the mat.

    Make sure that both the Cut and Up speeds are both lowered. Also, don't use the left side mat guide as it can also prevent the smooth in/out movement of the mat.
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit, Skycut C and D
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
    Latest MTC User Manuals: http://www.iloveknk.com/Support/user-manuals/
  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    Okay, I have tried some stuff.

    I started the same cut 3 times. The blade is new and the mat is sticky. I have a infinite blade and it is set well. The guide is completely out of the way.

    1. Speed 13.
    2. Speed 8.
    3. Speed 10. Replaced the texture with colour fill.

    In the first two cases the cut was off. In the third case it was not. I am going by the jog in the row of objects that is shown above. I believe that the texture is causing the cut to be off but I have no idea why.

    I will post again as I am doing a number of cuts tonight. I will cut with no texture to see what the result is. I have yet to try the 4 arrow calibration but I will try in the next few days.
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • Liz_ALiz_A Member Posts: 10,343
    @walshsurvey - can you send a sample file of what you are cutting??
  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    It is above (on the first post). ;-)
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    I tried the 4 arrow calibration and it worked beautifully. I am still trying to track down why it worked with the colour pnc but not the texture pnc.
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    I tried an experiment to create 16 arrows (4x4), then I copy those arrows onto another layer. I fill one of the layers of 16 arrows with a colour and then fill the other layer with pattern. Both cutouts cut beautifully.

    So it is not the pattern that is causing the problem. I have no idea what caused it. If someone else can try the file and see if they have the same problem so that I can identify whether or not it is my zing, that would be amazing. If they have the same problem it may be some sort of problem with the file. And if they don't I have to figure out if it is my machine and why.
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,583
    Are you cutting the same material with the arrow tests as you are with your project? I'll test cut your file in just a bit.
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit, Skycut C and D
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
    Latest MTC User Manuals: http://www.iloveknk.com/Support/user-manuals/
  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    No, I was using plain paper for my test. I will try on cardstock later and see what happens.
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,583
    I'm getting wacky results, too! This is some kind of software issue. Let me try removing the texture and see what happens.
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit, Skycut C and D
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
    Latest MTC User Manuals: http://www.iloveknk.com/Support/user-manuals/
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,583
    I got the same results. If I remove the texture, then it's near perfect. This is bizarre!
    @Andy or @SBryanW, will you please check this out. I have no clue what's happening here.
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit, Skycut C and D
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
    Latest MTC User Manuals: http://www.iloveknk.com/Support/user-manuals/
  • walshsurveywalshsurvey Member Posts: 553
    Oh thank you Sandy. I was pretty sure I was going nuts. Well, going MORE nuts. It is a great relief that I can resume cutting to my hearts content.image
    Connie
    I have my work cut out for me!
    I am CutWoman - I just need the black spandex and ears.
    Gallery ID: 20273
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,583
    You're welcome! :)
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit, Skycut C and D
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
    Latest MTC User Manuals: http://www.iloveknk.com/Support/user-manuals/
  • Liz_ALiz_A Member Posts: 10,343
    @walshsurvey - I vaguely recall an issue similar to this, and I believe that Bryan had a very logical answer...but it escapes me. He may have covered it in a webinar, but it was some time ago. Hopefully he has time to check in some time.
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