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symptoms of needing a new blade.......

pigtailpatpigtailpat Posts: 1,511Member
edited February 2010 in Help for Make The Cut
I am sorry for asking a really general question but I have not been an expression owner long. What are the symptoms of needing a new blade? My expression is cutting, but on some delicate items, it tears (have slowed down speed, etc.), and if I lighten pressure, depth, then it can't cut deep enough through. This is not a total newbie one, as I know some tearing happened when I first got my machine, and when I adjusted speed that took care of it [in the beginng during that learning process]. That trick isn't working well now. I mean it still cuts, but it's icky [not a MTC problem]. So if you're blade is going is this some of the tip offs????????? I will try changing mat if that does anything, but I have no extra blades handy.......
Cuts with Gazelle, PNC with silhouette.

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  • AndyAndy Posts: 4,449Administrator
    yeah and blades are expensive (side note, anyone know where to get cheap blades?)

    Have you tried raising the blade? On the blade enclosure itself there is a set of numbers.

    Try setting it to 3 or maybe even 2.

    What is it set to right now?
    I don't often test my code... But when I do, I do it in production.
  • missiethegalmissiethegal Posts: 354Member
    yeah, for cheap blades try ebay... the blades from other machines and plotters work just fine. try searching for keywords like "Roland" or "plotter" & "blade" too see what you come up with. I got a set of 60 degree blades to try a while back and they are working just fine (they have a sharper point than cricut's standard 45 degree blades).

    Also I know before I had some trouble with some little bits of paper getting stuck in and around my blade that gave me problems-- so you might want to double check for that too.
  • pigtailpatpigtailpat Posts: 1,511Member
    If I lighten the blade depth, it doesn't cut well. In the real beginning, I had some minor tearing and simply decreasing my speed worked. Since that isn't doing it anymore, I am starting to suspect I need a new blade. Thanks so much for the feedback. I'll have to pick up some blades. Meanwhile I'll try to make do until I can get something..............I managed to do a sweet sixteen card regardless - and got an iron scroll to work.........looks very elegant, I just love MTC and what I can do with it. It is such a blast. It hasn't replaced my photography, but while the weather is yucky for the outdoors, this is a great alternative.......love it.......

    Pat
    Cuts with Gazelle, PNC with silhouette.
  • missiethegalmissiethegal Posts: 354Member
    you might want to simply take out your blade and look it over and check for any chips or other imperfections... I remember hearing that some of the machines have come right out of the box with faulty blades. If you haven't taken your blade out before, it's really simple since they are held in place with magnets-- just give it a little tug ;)
  • cropgalcropgal Posts: 277Member
    I use the Roland blades from Ebay too. They work perfectly well. I also like the 60 degree instead of the 45 degree blades.
  • KansasAKansasA Posts: 35Member
    edited February 2010
    Can anyone tell me if these blades work: http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-set-of-3-Roland-Master-Vinyl-Cutter-Blades-Cutting_W0QQitemZ320481740127QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPrinter_Accessories?hash=item4a9e33455f They are "ROLAND COMPATIBLE BLADES 45 DEGREE BLADE" or would I be better off looking for the 60 degree ones?
    Thanks! :)
    Post edited by Andy on
  • rachellann_714rachellann_714 Posts: 834Member
    45 degree blades are what the cricut came out with but since I have a professional cutter and the cricut I just go with the roland 60 degree blade not only does it seem to cut better it seems to last just a little longer. There are blades out there like the cleancut blades that are far better but are more expencive here is the link. http://cleancutblade.com/Products.htm. I have used these and still using the same blade in the cricut that I have been now for about 7 months stil cuts fine detail without any tearing.
    Owner of a 24" Silver Bullet Professional Series, 18" Black cat Cougar, uscutters MH871, Bosskut gazelle. I help with start up tech support for the Cougar and Lynx and the Silver Bullet Professional Series.
    http://thatsscrapinc.com/
    http://thymegraphics.co.uk/
  • bbonkobbonko Posts: 908Member
    Check out today's posting on the Yahoo group for MTC. Julie (Crafty Musician), works with lots of different cutters, and recommended some blades that last MUCH longer than the PC blades. It didn't sound like she recommended the Roland blades, because of all the different angles, and the fact that what is 45 degrees with one company might be 60 degrees with another.

    Brenda in WA
    Brenda B
    Longview, WA
  • sjh9902sjh9902 Posts: 340Member
    holy cow!!!! I am so glad I clicked on this thread...
    I keep trying to use my blades long after they need changing because they are expensive but for the price of these on ebay will make me feel better about going through them so quickly. can anyone tell me do they work in the deep blade housing? if not which ones do?
  • susan_ID2293susan_ID2293 Posts: 2,814Member
    Rachellan,

    Which blade did you put in your Cricut? Are they the 60 degree Roland for 16.50? They had several listed:

    Thanks
    Susan

    Roland 30 degree $16.50
    Solid ultrafine grain carbide tip, brazed to a hardened steel shank. Fits Roland camm1,Allen Datagraph, Graphityp, CSR ecom-2, Stika, GCC, Master, Creation, US Cutter, Vinyl Express not Q series Primarily for 2-4 Mil. vinyl.


    Roland 45 degree $16.50
    Solid ultrafine grain carbide tip, brazed to a hardened steel shank. Fits Roland camm1,Allen Datagraph, Graphityp, CSR ecom-2, Stika, GCC, Master, Creation, US Cutter, Vinyl Express not Q series Primarily for 4-12 Mil. vinyl.

    Roland 60 degree $16.50
    Solid ultrafine grain carbide tip, brazed to a hardened steel shank. Fits Roland camm1,Allen Datagraph, Graphityp, CSR ecom-2, Stika, GCC, Master, Creation, US Cutter, Vinyl Express not Q series Primarily for 12+ Mil. vinyl.

    Roland 60 Thinned $20.50

    Roland 60 thinned. Fits Roland camm1,Allen Datagraph, Graphityp, CSR ecom-2, Stika, GCC, Master, Creation, US Cutter, Vinyl Express not Q series

    Roland 60° Special $20.50
    Solid ultrafine grain carbide tip, Sharper side angles for use with rhinestone application programs . Fits Roland camm1,Allen Datagraph, Graphityp, CSR ecom-2, Stika, GCC, Master, Creation, US Cutter, Vinyl Express not Q series
  • rachellann_714rachellann_714 Posts: 834Member
    edited February 2010
    Susan
    I bought from the company listed but there might be some place cheaper, but the key word is cleancut blades.
    Roland 60 degree $16.50
    Solid ultrafine grain carbide tip, brazed to a hardened steel shank. Fits Roland camm1,Allen Datagraph, Graphityp, CSR ecom-2, Stika, GCC, Master, Creation, US Cutter, Vinyl Express not Q series Primarily for 12+ Mil. vinyl.

    also I usally buy the five pack just have extra on hand because with my other cutter I use it quite alot and it seems to save in the long run to buy the five.

    Roland 60 degree 5 Pack - 5 Pack of the Roland 60 degree blade - $66.00
    Post edited by rachellann_714 on
    Owner of a 24" Silver Bullet Professional Series, 18" Black cat Cougar, uscutters MH871, Bosskut gazelle. I help with start up tech support for the Cougar and Lynx and the Silver Bullet Professional Series.
    http://thatsscrapinc.com/
    http://thymegraphics.co.uk/
  • pigtailpatpigtailpat Posts: 1,511Member
    edited February 2010
    missie and rachellann -

    if you use a non-cricut blade, is the installation of the blade any different?? I;m a little nervous about doing a blade change for the first time..........

    Also on the cleanblade site, I only see roland Camm 1 (30, 45 and 60) and Roland Z series (only 45). It is the Camm 1 right?

    is this it: http://www.cleancutblade.com/ct_PRrold-60.htm

    Thanks.

    Pat
    Post edited by pigtailpat on
    Cuts with Gazelle, PNC with silhouette.
  • missiethegalmissiethegal Posts: 354Member
    Pat,
    I was nervous switching them out too at first but the skinny little blade is held magnetically so it just pops in and out-- just gotta push the top pin thingee so the blade lowers and then just grab it.
    I think I bought the cheapie blades on ebay from a reputable seller and I haven't had problems-- of course I don't use my cricut for a living or anything but heck, if they work then whoo hoo!! Sorry, don't know anything about the cleanblades.
  • rachellann_714rachellann_714 Posts: 834Member
    edited February 2010
    It is the same blade basically but a better brand, they look the same, the only differences is the color in the tip .
    Post edited by rachellann_714 on
    Owner of a 24" Silver Bullet Professional Series, 18" Black cat Cougar, uscutters MH871, Bosskut gazelle. I help with start up tech support for the Cougar and Lynx and the Silver Bullet Professional Series.
    http://thatsscrapinc.com/
    http://thymegraphics.co.uk/
  • ConiCutsConiCuts Posts: 1,653Member
    What about the 60° HIGH QUALITY ROLAND VINYL CUTTER PLOTTER BLADES? Can these be used in the Cricut for all cutting or just for vinyl?
  • missiethegalmissiethegal Posts: 354Member
    all cutting. that's pretty much what I've been using.
  • rachellann_714rachellann_714 Posts: 834Member
    conicuts those are fine, I was showing a blade that has been the best so far , I have used different blade brands and the clean cut ones have out lasted any other ones so far.
    Owner of a 24" Silver Bullet Professional Series, 18" Black cat Cougar, uscutters MH871, Bosskut gazelle. I help with start up tech support for the Cougar and Lynx and the Silver Bullet Professional Series.
    http://thatsscrapinc.com/
    http://thymegraphics.co.uk/
  • ConiCutsConiCuts Posts: 1,653Member
    Oh good, cuz I have a bid in on ebay! I did a search for Roland clean cut and nothing came up. Just good to know about these less expensive blade options. Also, I haven't been pleased with the deep cut Cricut blade. I am using it in the regular housing and heard somewhere that I need to get the deep cut housing for it to work best. What do you all think?
  • rhondarhonda Posts: 12Member
    rachelleann, could I ask what kind of pro cutter you have? I have been kind of looking at some....can't seem to convince dh that I "need" one. But will keep looking just the same. ;)
  • ConiCutsConiCuts Posts: 1,653Member
    Not sure if you are asking me or all of us, but I have the Cricut Expression.
  • rachellann_714rachellann_714 Posts: 834Member
    rhonda
    I have three cutters one forscrappbooking its the cricut E then have the USCutter MH 721 33" and a Copam CP-4050 48" cutters these two were bought from US Cutters. here's their link. http://www.uscutterdirect.com. you can also find the cutters listed on Ebay by us cutter the only difference is the warrenty --ebay is only 3mo. and direct from us cutters is one year.
    Owner of a 24" Silver Bullet Professional Series, 18" Black cat Cougar, uscutters MH871, Bosskut gazelle. I help with start up tech support for the Cougar and Lynx and the Silver Bullet Professional Series.
    http://thatsscrapinc.com/
    http://thymegraphics.co.uk/
  • CrzyCraftLadyCrzyCraftLady Posts: 102Member
    In case anyone is interested. I've had some marginal success sharpening my blades to extend their life just a little longer by placing some heavy duty aluminum foil on my cutting mat and then picking a simple image, filling the page with it and letting the cricut cut the page of shapes in the foil :)

    It won't make your blade like new, but it will sure extend it's life a little while longer !
  • AndyAndy Posts: 4,449Administrator
    very very interesting!

    How much do you want to make a bet that using 3rd party blades voids your Cricut warranty :P
    I don't often test my code... But when I do, I do it in production.
  • pigtailpatpigtailpat Posts: 1,511Member
    I decided to purchase 1 cleancut blade, because if Rachellann is using hers in her cricut for 7 months, I'm listening to her experience. If after using 1 of the cleancut blade and if I like the experience, then I might do the 5 pack, but not for awhile, as I need to start saving for a wedding later this year (my niece's for a gift, etc. - she lives far away so plane travel is involved) so I need to "cut" corners where I can [pun intended].

    I am going to be really nervous about installing a non-party blade, so Rachellann, or anyone, if you have the resources to create a tut about installing a non-cricut blade, would be SO appreciated.......

    Julie - on the yahoo list, likes the pazzles pro blades (she uses those in her cricut). However the pazzles pro blade, the regular straight replacement blade is even more expensive than the cleancut blade recommended by Rachellann ($18.50 - vs - $16.50), and the pazzles pro vinyl blade is $30. So I am going to try the cleancut blade first to see how that goes, and hopefully I won't have a problem.
    Cuts with Gazelle, PNC with silhouette.
  • missiethegalmissiethegal Posts: 354Member
    glad you got it figured out :)
    But seriously the blades pretty much all are the same-- if you mixed them up, I doubt you could figure out easily which one was which (so be careful lol). Anyway, here's a short vid on changing blades with cricut blades but it works EXACTLY the same with non-cricut ones...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYT4VlAT_Y
  • KwiltKwilt Posts: 1,347Member
    Thanks for the reminder for the Roland blades...I remember looking for them on Ebay a few months ago and totally forgot all about it. Another trick is to push your old blade through foil a bunch of times to resharpen it.

    ...now off to ebay to find them blades...
    Proud MTC Member Since: 12/25/2009
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  • pigtailpatpigtailpat Posts: 1,511Member
    I need to correct my post, Julie just posted she uses the pazzles inspiration blades in her cricut and not the pro blades, which is different........
    Cuts with Gazelle, PNC with silhouette.
  • Right now, Oh My Crafts has the regular blades, two to a pack, for $5.99. That's a really good price.

    Mary
    www.primitiveseasons.blogspot.com
  • ConiCutsConiCuts Posts: 1,653Member
    Just tried out one of my 60 degree Roland blades and it works fine. I did have to adjust pressure and speed to get the best cut as at first it was tearing my paper. I remember someone saying that every Cricut is different and you just have to play with the pressure and speed to get the best performance. These are so much more affordable too!
  • lucylogiclucylogic Posts: 104Member
    Disappointed with the Cricut blades. Only had my machine 3 weeks but already it is blunt with hardly any cutting done !!! I've had my blade in my Craft Robo for 2 yrs and it's still going strong and that one is very well used. Might have to invest in some different types of blade. Any recommendations? Live in Uk so need supplier here. Thanks.
  • SheriSheri Posts: 488Member
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280461736458&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    I won these. Will they be ok to use in my expression?

    Sheri
  • ConiCutsConiCuts Posts: 1,653Member
    Yes Sheri, those are the ones I bought from ebay too and I'm using one in my Cricut Expression now.
  • susan_ID2293susan_ID2293 Posts: 2,814Member
    Are you using the ebay ones in your regular blade holder? I just bought some on ebay as well - a sample pack of 30, 45 and 60 degree blades. I thought the 60 degree blades may need the deep blade holder.
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