Hello all,
I must admit I'm a newbie when it comes to cutting machines, but I am reluctant to invest in something such as a Cameo or Cricut when I know better machines are out there. However, when it comes to what most of you use these machines for, I must say I feel like a lightweight!
I'm starting a small business where my primary needs are going to be to cut paper and cardstock, score folding lines, and kiss cut sticker sheets, and often two of these functions on the same project. Everything I do will also be a Print and Cut and no larger than 13" wide.
I have used Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop before and own copies of both so I am not too worried about the learning curve for buying SCAL or MTC.
From what I understand, the dual heads on the Force would allow me to do both types cuts at the same time/without switching out tools, correct? I also see the Skycutter's name and Duo thrown out there. These models, along with the Orbit, all seem to have better PnC capabilities than things like say the Silver Bullet, but as far as the differences between them I'm not entirely sure which will allow me to do things faster. From this thread (
https://forum.make-the-cut.com/discussion/46512/zing-orbiit-vs-knk-force) it seems that the Orbit, and possibly the Force after calibration, is better at finding the registration marks on its own.
In the same thread Sandy advocates waiting for the Maxx Duo, but perhaps this is outside my needs?
Any advice or suggestions would be very welcome! I've been getting overwhelmed with all the information I've been taking in lately!br>
P.S. Do these machines have the potential to cut all the way to the edge? This is a very basic question, but I've only seen videos of people doing cut outs from the center and one of the things I want to cut is envelopes similar to this template from Neenah:
https://www.neenahpaper.com/-/media/files/storefront/dielines/envelope/announcement_a7.ashx?la=en&hash=12E5487E6064FF28B14317B4BB652A688C7C66DB
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So Scal maybe a better option
You may find you will get more answers to you question about user experience on the following Facebook Groups
https://www.facebook.com/groups/KNKForce/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Skycut/
The KNK force in not longer manufactured so your only purchase option would be a used machine
The KNK force differed from all other cutters in that is had a z axis so rather the tool raised or lowered movement of a regular solenoid type cutter The the tool could be moved to a set height . This made it possible to have the option of a rotary tool attachment But also add a extra complexity to its operation of a blade cutter
The Force used a camera to detect the registration marks use in the print and cut function this feature work extremely well
(The Skycut and Soon to be available KNK Maxx Solo / Duo use a camera as well)
The KNK Zing Orbit uses a optical sensor to detect reg marks I have no experience with this machine
As you Say dual head allow the use of 2 tools in a single cut process
eg cut and crease
The link you posted does not work ?
Cutting for material edge to edge is possible providing it is within the maximum cutting size of the cutter
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Gallery ID #26944 ----- Link to My Cloud Have a Look your Welcome to Make Use of the Files
The Skycut auto-feeding label cutter looks seriously amazing! (Although it is missing some very obvious features I wanted.)
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Sticker cutting is going to be my main business, while everything else (such as the score and cut stuff) is likely going to end up being secondary (but the involved projects are something I love nonetheless). I saw on the Facebook pages when I took a look that there is such a thing as the auto-feeding label cutter for stickers, and it definitely caught my eye.
However, from your description of the Maxx Duo's save feature and camera ability, it sounds like, aside from the obvious human effort to put new sticker sheets in, getting the cut started again wouldn't involve anything too arduous like exact or excessively nitpicky placements?
And really, I would love a list if it didn't hassle you to make it. I loved your input on the last thread I read and there were certainly things I wrongfully assumed all cutters should be able to do before realizing only this one or another one did.
UK, Cameo, Serif Draw, Win10.
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Perfect! I'm excited to see more stuff when the machine gets released.
Definitely not getting the Force now. Even if you all hadn't wisely warned me away from it I'd have been scared off after seeing that there were a lot of software woes. At least the unfortunate situation with C3 and all that shouldn't affect the Maxx Duo.
(1) Calibration is super easy for both dual head and PNC. The camera used for PNC projects a photo onto the control panel screen and you just move a red + to the center of the image in the projected photo.
(2) The camera is really fast in finding the reg marks. It doesn't have to scan up and down and back and forth several times, like optic eyes require. It just moves over to the mark, takes a photo, and determines immediately where the mark is in the photo versus where it expected it to be and then compensates.
(3) The camera can identify reg marks printed on dark, transparent, and mirrored materials.
(4) You can save cut files with their cut settings as PLT onto a USB flash drive and load that file into the control panel for cutting. Now, this IS something that has been around before on other cutters, such as the original 24" Maxx, however, with the new control panel, you can now set up an array of repeats that weren't originally part of the cut file you saved.
(5) One lever is used to raise and lower all of the pinch wheels instead of having individual levers on each pinch wheels. There's nothing worse than starting a cut and realizing you forgot to lower one of them.
(6) You can connect 4 ways: (a) Wi-Fi (much much easier to set up than on the Force) (b) USB (c) stand-alone wireless, (4) USB flash drive, as mentioned before
(7) The dual heads allow you to score and cut at one time... and SCAL makes it very easy to assign layers to the right or the left sides, as needed.
(8) Like other KNK cutters, the Maxx Duo will have fully adjustable blade holder seats so you can directly insert tools of all kinds. And with the calibration being so easy for dual heads, it's not a big deal to have different diameters of tools, as in the past.
(9) The Maxx Duo will have a new table design with mat guides that will adjust for different widths of cutting mats or you can forgo using them, if needed.
(10) All calibrations are stored on the cutter itself. Thus, no need to worry if buy a new computer or software updates, like SCAL's, wipe out your calibrations.
(11) You can set up intermediate registration marks if you have a really long cut and then set how often you want intermediate marks to be read. Note that this does require using the USB flash drive for cutting since it's part of the firmware versus being a part of SCAL. But I've tested it and it works great.
(12) You can set End of Cut action on the Control Panel: (a) return to origin (b) go to the end of the cut and advance x inches (c) go to the left of the cut an advance x inches.
(13) You can change how the up/down arrows work on the Control Panel. This one made me laugh because all users, including myself, will push the up arrow on a control panel, expecting one thing and getting the opposite.
(14) Also on the Control Panel, you can set the cutter to NOT go all the way to right upon power up. Thus, if you have set the head in a certain position for always using that position as the origin, then it will stay there even after you turn off and turn the cutter back on.
(15) 2000 g of cutting force... powerful enough for "all day long" cutting.
(16) Extremely high cutting resolution... can cut very accurate lettering at small sizes.
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SkycutD cannot accept all kinds of tools?
I found it here as it's close to me in Cambodia: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0k.7386009.0.d4919233.58bd2b789JlvRf&id=557889823208&_u=t2dmg8j26111
Is this the one?
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I'm currently prototyping some sticker designs to cut on a Cameo I have access to and I realized that although my print lines are 1/8 of an inch away from the edge of the page, but the registration marks won't go any further than 3/8ths so I'm losing a whole 1/4 inch of space!
Do you know how the Maxx Duo will fare in this realm for the total size of PNC ability? I haven't been able to find any info on their official website, although I may have overlooked something.
UK, Cameo, Serif Draw, Win10.
Link to My Craft Bazaar | Link to Skool | Force Bazaar - Archimedes
Feel free to use anything in these links.
UK, Cameo, Serif Draw, Win10.
Link to My Craft Bazaar | Link to Skool | Force Bazaar - Archimedes
Feel free to use anything in these links.
UK, Cameo, Serif Draw, Win10.
Link to My Craft Bazaar | Link to Skool | Force Bazaar - Archimedes
Feel free to use anything in these links.
Now that I think about it, staggering the designs so that each design is shifted towards one of the four edges may increase the size enough that it may work. I'll probably take a look tomorrow, but regretably the Cameos do not allow cutting beyond their registration borders.
UK, Cameo, Serif Draw, Win10.
Link to My Craft Bazaar | Link to Skool | Force Bazaar - Archimedes
Feel free to use anything in these links.
Regarding the newer cutters that are using SCAL for print and cut applications, you can enter the offset you want for the reg marks relative to the printed images. Now, as with what I just wrote, you can't have the reg marks too close to the printed design, thus, note these two cases where in the first one, the reg mark offset can be 0. However, in the second case, you need the reg marks further away because the camera (or any optic eye in the case of some brands/models) can't distinguish what is the design and what is the reg mark.
So, in this case, the reg marks are too close:
But in this case, the shapes are arranged such that the reg marks are set at the minimum and the shapes are arranged such that the scan of the reg marks will be fine:
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