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which machine for India? Please help me choose knk zing, cameo, brother?

HobbyElectronicsHobbyElectronics Member Posts: 3
Hi,
I know its very repetitive question, however being in India I have only fewer options to buy and I am not sure about International after sales service. I have found brother scanncut, cameo listed online for sale. However no distributor is selling knk zings or pazzles. I may purchase zing online directly US or some of my friend may buy it for me, but I am not sure about after sales service issues, even if I get spares shipped, It will be really helpful.

My cutting requirement is to cut 180gsm paper to 350 gsm packing board. I would like to prototype foldable boxes, so I will use print n cut technology, I would also like to cut some detailed designs on card stock for making invitations. I will cut almost everyday couple of hours.

The next option for me is to choose super expensive graphtec machines, which I dont want to do as a new user.
Could you please suggest me if I should buy a zing? If anyone outside US is having any experience with the company, if they support international customers and will help me with some broken part issues etc?

Thanks in advance

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  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,064
    edited April 13
    We have a new KNK dealer in India! I just found out two days ago. Here is the contact info: gegigraphics@gmail.com   Sansidran is his name.
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit
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  • leslie6111leslie6111 Member Posts: 2,344
    edited April 13
    You should also look at the knk force. The zing has been replaced with the zing orbit - a new machine. You can possibly find either of these machines used for quite a bit less. My original zing has only had to be repaired once in the years that I have owned it. The force seems to come with more issues for some people - mine only needed the sd card in it reseated - which is a common issue. My husband did it for me . Only time will tell how the orbit is made - since it is first being shipped to new owners. The cameo has also been upgraded. The cameo is more plug and play where as the force and zing orbit there is more learning on the best settings . It really depends on your purse and what you are cutting. The zing orbit and the force are also more expensive. With all these machines buy extra mats and blades since shipping is an issue. I own a force and the original zing. The new orbit is very different - 2 heads and automatic registration mark recognition for pnc is what they claim and being able to cut at higher pressure and with an attachment act like an egg bot -for writing on cylinders and egg shapes. Also you can get it in a wider width. The force is still waiting on automatic reg mark recognition, but it embosses the best of any cutter out there and you can buy a router attachment to cut thin wood and acrylic. Both cutters I think can see registration marks in dim light since they use a laser system. I know the past versions of the cameo had issues finding reg marks since they do not have laser recognition. I think you would be less happy with the brother machine (I do not own a brother)  if you are doing a lot of pnc from the reviews that I have read. The force and orbit are considered less of a hobby cutter than the brother or the cameo. A lot of people are happy with their pazzles as well. But I think for embossing and cutting fine card stock, and dead on pnc, the force is the best cutter out there.

    Also check out the software the cutter uses - that alone will tell you which
     cutter will be right. The orbit uses SCAL, the force has its own but that is not design software - for that you can use an array of products to make your files - SCAL (plugin), MTC, inkscape, Corel Draw, Adobe Illustrator to make a svg. The Cameo uses silhouette studio (can use other svg's if buy designers edition -  but not export svg's)  and the brother - its own as well.

    Oh and welcome to the MTC forum where we discuss mostly the software Make the Cut!. We are users of this software and have various cutters.
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,064
    Just one correction and one clarification to @leslie6111's post. The new Zing Orbit only has one head... not 2 heads.   Also, while the Force doesn't yet have automatic registration mark recognition, the manual method using the camera works extremely well and is much faster and more accurate to use than the laser light methods on the older Zing/Zing Air and a number of other older model cutters on the market. 
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit
    Need help with your KNK? Visit this link: http://knkusa.com/contact/
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  • leslie6111leslie6111 Member Posts: 2,344
    edited April 14
    Sorry about the 2 heads for the zing orbit - but the force does have 2 heads. And hopefully the force will have the automatic recognition soon - since that is one reason I bought the cutter in the first place.
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,064
    edited April 14
    It's being worked on!  :)   And no apology needed!  :) 
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit
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  • HobbyElectronicsHobbyElectronics Member Posts: 3
    Thanks a lot for the contact and lots of knowledge around zing, I am quiet curious about it, and its capabilities. Knowing its capabilities, I dont think it would be wise to compare it with brother & cameo, However I was curious about eclips 2 a bit.

    Its not soo important but I havn't found much help (working videos etc) regarding attachments for orbit. I hope the new auto alignment works well, I don't know if we can still manual align this machine or its fully auto.
    I have contacted dealer and looking forward to get more details.
  • Di-liteDi-lite Member Posts: 3,151
    I wouldn't go for an eclips - lots of problems seem to be around for that cutter. 
    Have fun, Di, ID 14610
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  • Liz_ALiz_A Member Posts: 9,462
    @HobbyElectronics - I agree with @Di-lite, I would not be spending my money on the eclips cutter. They do not publish the specifications of this cutter, while most of the other cutter manufacturers do, so you cannot compare based on specifications. I would not put my money there.
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,064
    The Zing Orbit has only been shipping for about 2 weeks and the attachments are not released yet.  The PNC only works automatically but it does work very well.  We should have some video tutorials released soon. 
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit
    Need help with your KNK? Visit this link: http://knkusa.com/contact/
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
    Latest KNK / MTC User Manuals: http://www.iloveknk.com/Support/user-manuals/
  • HobbyElectronicsHobbyElectronics Member Posts: 3
    Thanks a lot for such a helpful information. :)
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 7,064
    You're welcome!  Feel free to post more questions, if you have them.
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Orbit
    Need help with your KNK? Visit this link: http://knkusa.com/contact/
    Over 90 free MTC videos: http://www.iloveknk.com/support/mtc-support/
    Latest KNK / MTC User Manuals: http://www.iloveknk.com/Support/user-manuals/
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