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Bottom/Back

Just created my first pop up card. What an amazing program! One thing I don't understand...why is the bottom called 'the bottom; and the back called 'the back.'?
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  • DreamStreetRoseDreamStreetRose Member Posts: 175
    My very humble first project.
    A grandma's name is little less in love than is the doting title of a mother. -- William Shakespeare
  • Di-liteDi-lite Member Posts: 3,003
    Nice project - boy that's a big picture had fun trying to see it all.  (Not very good with the internet.)
    Have fun, Di, ID 14610
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  • DreamStreetRoseDreamStreetRose Member Posts: 175
    Thanks Di!
    A grandma's name is little less in love than is the doting title of a mother. -- William Shakespeare
  • Crazy_Mr_ZingCrazy_Mr_Zing Member Posts: 2,527
    edited September 2016
    Your first card is great onward and upwards PCS is quite addictive if your a tinkerer like me once I start I keep building and adding the problems being have the skills to fold it in the end
    I found the PCS introductory webinar of great help is sets a foundation for many of the functions I find pop the link up at the bottom

    I've not found the term bottom or back confusing they just seemed self explanatory to me but and just accepted that what they were
    I not really use many other similar software to think any different
    I guess they could have been x plane and y plane I will confess I never remember which is x and which y even on MTC??

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  • yupyup Member Posts: 320
    Great first project! 
  • CharoCharo Member Posts: 544
    @DreamStreetRose  It's a fine first project.  Now you probably will get addicted to PCS as more and more ideas pop into your head.  So much fun...
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  • GabeGabe Moderator Posts: 4,313
    @Crazy_Mr_Zing, ok, I'll bite.  Try this; lay a sheet of paper on the table.  Take a pen and draw a line from left to right near the bottom of the paper.  That's X.  Now, put your pen on the starting point of X on the left side of the paper and draw a line going up the side of the paper, toward the top.  That's Y.  And now, take your pen and put it in the middle of the paper, standing it straight up from the table top.  That's Z.  X and Y are on the same plane and define position from left to right on the plane( X) and bottom to top on the plane (Y).  X defines "width" and Y defines "height" in simple terms.  However, there is also a 3rd dimension associated with the plane, which is height above the plane.  That is defined by Z.  If you put a stack of coins on the paper, they would be X units from the left side and Y units up from the bottom and Z units tall.  Capeesh?  :)
  • Liz_ALiz_A Member Posts: 9,235
    @Gabe - explained so anyone could understand this =). And good primer for understanding how to work with the Force - that has a Z axis =).
  • Crazy_Mr_ZingCrazy_Mr_Zing Member Posts: 2,527
    Thanks Gabe  It not that I don't understand I just forget if x is left to right or up and down
    PCS has the little 3 arrow diagram in the corner which is very helpful
    In MTC sometime I just move the object to see which value changes
    Yep I know I am a Nutter
    I really should add yet another sticker to the surround of my screen to remind me maybe it will eventually sink in 
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  • Di-liteDi-lite Member Posts: 3,003
    Cheers @Gabe  Now all I have to do is remember x = horizontal and I stand a chance of remembering Y = vertical!!  z for me is obvious as it's the only other plane left!!  Crazy_Mr_Zing is not the only nutter around here!  I'm getting quite good at it!!
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  • Reba1Reba1 Member Posts: 3,619
    I can never remember either. Also guilty of moving an item just to see which axis changes. 
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  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 6,904
    And just to confuse things even further, X is up/down if looking at most cutters straight on and Y is left/right.  For example, when calibrating the laser on a KNK Maxx or Zing model, this is how X and Y are determined.  But that's not so with the Force. It calibrates with X being left/right and Y is up/down.
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  • Crazy_Mr_ZingCrazy_Mr_Zing Member Posts: 2,527
    edited October 2016
    I thought the might a little trick teachers used to help kids remember
    well i would have never thought of this one

    Apologies in advance for any induced earwigs

    The x-axis is a horizontal line and the y-axis is a vertical line.  I'm sure you've heard that a million times, but it might hard for you to remember which one is which.

    Here is a little trick to help you remember...

    Just remember this applies to on screen only

    Not the cal settings on you cutter



    Can you hear the "rhymes?" x to the left and y to the sky.



    Post edited by Crazy_Mr_Zing on
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  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 6,904
    edited October 2016
    Thanks, @Crazy_Mr_Zing. But again... it's the opposite if you're working on a calibration... either sizing or the resolution calibration and you're facing your cutter head on.... which is how I've been looking at my cutters for the past 10+ years! lol 
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  • Crazy_Mr_ZingCrazy_Mr_Zing Member Posts: 2,527
    edited October 2016
    I guess there's a reason for that maybe carry over from the origin plotters and them usually plotting in landscape who knows ?????????

    I guess I could confuse the issue more
    So when calibrating should we stand on the left or right and look at the cutter side on to get the correct x+- y+- orientation


    Don't worry When it come to calibrating the zing I save brain my limited brain power and follow your instruction in the manual verbatim
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  • Little_BerryLittle_Berry Member Posts: 5,758
    I wish we could ask a 5th grader
  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 6,904
    Yes... it's how the vinyl cutter software programs were all originally set up.  It's like you need to view the cutter sideways.... which is how MTC shows the cut previews in the KNK series plugins... they're sideways!   Now, to make things even more complicated, some of the vinyl programs will view the cutters as if you are standing on the left side and looking at the cutter (as MTC does) and some of the other programs will view the cutters as if you are standing on the right side and looking at the cutter (as in the KNK Studio software).  This TOTALLY changes where the origin is located on the screen if you're trying to move your shapes to a specific side and totally confuses most of our customers who started with KNK Studio and now try to use MTC.   Either way, when it comes to calibrations, Y is left/right and X is up/down.  But not on the software screen... where Y is up/down and X is left/right... regardless of the mat orientation setting!  Confused?  If you're not, then you're not being honest!  lol It still boggles my brain and this is what I do for a living!

    Thank you, @Crazy_Mr_Zing for just following the instructions. I try my very best to make it accurate and straight forward for customers so that can just follow the steps and not second-guess anything. Because, as you can tell from this thread, you can easily get things twisted around if you assume you understand on your own and then deviate from the tutorials.

    This being said, I'm always open to a better way to present things. So, if anyone ever has suggestions, let them be known!  :)

     
    Sandy McCauley
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  • Crazy_Mr_ZingCrazy_Mr_Zing Member Posts: 2,527
    I think I lost all that knowledge due to bad brain Sectors or corruption with other useless information
    Once I total forgot how to spell OF  all I knew was that it was not OV......
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  • SandyMcCSandyMcC Member Posts: 6,904
    I'm about 5 minutes behind you!  lol  I actually use my own past manuals to recall how this all works! 
    Sandy McCauley
    Cutting with KNK Force, Maxx Air, Zing Air
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  • Liz_ALiz_A Member Posts: 9,235
    @SandyMcC - thanks for the great explanation...even if it just confirms that I don't need to think about it, just look it up when in doubt, LOL! I have a long work table in my disaster craft room, and my cutter of the moment sits at the right side end of that table, facing the length of the table. So I have pretty much always worked from the cutter right side. The only time I really get confused is when aligning reg marks on the Maxx Air, for example, in MTC, the left arrow button never moves in the correct direction, in my thinking!

    I think all the cutters in the cut previews in MTC are lined up the same way as the Zing or Maxx are.
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